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ragnar
Fri Jul 28 2006, 11:51PM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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If the sun disappeared, then the rest of the solar system would orbit around me. ^^
I mean... I am the centre of the universe 'n all.
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Bjørn
Sat Jul 29 2006, 08:10AM
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No one has measured the speed of gravity and the indirect evidence that exists depends on general relativity being correct to give a valid answer. There are other theories where the speed of gravity is infinite or a lot higher than the speed of light.

Until someone finds ut an extremely clever way to measure it, it seems fairly safe to assume gravity propagates at the speed of light.

The question is problematic because the sun can't suddenly disappear. If we assume it does anyway we may think up a result that is invalid because the conditions are invalid.
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Dr. Shark
Sat Jul 29 2006, 09:08AM
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I think this is a very interesting question with the answer far from being obvious or meaningless. For a start have a look at Link2 (Well, is there any Physics question Beaz is not a good start for?), and then there are a few papers in respected journals speculating about the "Speed of Gravity".

Very good question, Dan!
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Desmogod
Sat Jul 29 2006, 02:46PM
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8 minutes before our orbit degraded and we started drifting towards Jupiter.

Edit: why is the error only there _after_ we press reply?
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Penguin7471
Sun Jul 30 2006, 04:48AM
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This was in NewScientist magazine and someone said that the earth would just keep orbiting due to some angular velocity or something.

I dont get it though.
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Quantum Singularity
Sun Jul 30 2006, 08:56AM
Quantum Singularity Registered Member #158 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 09:53PM
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Bjørn Bæverfjord wrote ...

No one has measured the speed of gravity and the indirect evidence that exists depends on general relativity being correct to give a valid answer. There are other theories where the speed of gravity is infinite or a lot higher than the speed of light.

Until someone finds ut an extremely clever way to measure it, it seems fairly safe to assume gravity propagates at the speed of light.

The question is problematic because the sun can't suddenly disappear. If we assume it does anyway we may think up a result that is invalid because the conditions are invalid.

That is my answer exactly ^

I always wondered about the 'speed' of gravity myself although I never researched it seriously. Is the whole concept of what gravity is still just a concept? For example has there ever been proof that a 'graviton' particle exists... or is it energy?

It is relatively impossible to make any mass instantly dissapear (unless you happen to have a lot of antimatter handy). I assume the point your trying to make/ask is about the speed in which the effect of gravity propagates.
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Steve Conner
Sun Jul 30 2006, 05:51PM
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Haha, good point Bjoern, the sun is already self-destructing as fast as the laws of physics allow smile How do you blow up something that's a nuclear fireball to start with?
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