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Dave Marshall
Tue Jul 11 2006, 01:16AM Print
Dave Marshall Registered Member #16 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 02:22PM
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Chris Russell and I were prowling the HF bands looking for numbers stations today when he happened upon a very strange, continuously transmitting station at 5440.5Khz USB.

Its comprised of two alternating tones, each lasting approximately 1 second, and each a warbling tone that decends in frequency . It starts at the same frequency every time, and ends at the same frequency. It spans roughly 300Hz over the 1 second duration, and the high note of the two tones is seperated by about 600Hz. The station was first noticed around 0035 zulu. At 0110Z its still going, no noticeable change. There was no AM carrier present, and the lower sideband was very well suppressed.

Below is the waterfall capture of the station, with the left most edge being 5440.5Khz.

Dave
1152580561 16 FT0 Unksig5440khz10jul062104
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Chris Russell
Tue Jul 11 2006, 01:23AM
Chris Russell ... not Russel!
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Here's my spectrum, and my audio. Very interesting! I should note that my capture was taken on 5441.5khz, in USB mode. This sounds a lot like the famous backwards music/whales station, but way too regular, or at least more regular than I've ever heard. Also, this frequency isn't one known for that station.


] 1152581002_1_FT12816_unknown__20060710__0100z__544 1.5khz__usb__sample_with_and_without_noise_reducti on.mp3[/file]
5khz  Usb  Sample With And Without Noise Reduction
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Conundrum
Sat Jul 15 2006, 06:16PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hmm. Could be military, perhaps meterological data from a balloon-mounted transmitter?

Its unlikely to be extraterrestrial as this frequency does not travel interstellar distances very well.

-A
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Dave Marshall
Tue Jul 18 2006, 03:05PM
Dave Marshall Registered Member #16 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 02:22PM
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This wasn't extra terrestrial. I'm sure it was some sort of encrypted signal, or possibly a test signal of some sort for an FSK transmitter. We haven't heard it again since that night, but we received reports that it was heard by several European stations as well.

These strange transmissions are common on the HF bands if you know where to find them. This particular one is undocumented, however. Chris seems to be the first to discover it.

Dave
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Carbon_Rod
Thu Jul 20 2006, 12:11AM
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It looks like digital time domain sharing similar to wireless phones, audio/video monitors, and networks. The 1.x GHz and 2.x GHz range is common for home automation control systems too – trouble is its unregulated in some places so very crowded. Generally low broadcast strengths limit these to a maximum of 5km line of site for most equipment (on a good day.)

Sounds like you have a 3G phone to me.
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Thu Jul 20 2006, 12:53AM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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hmm, chris did just get a new phone... tongue

It wouldn't suprise me if that was the case, if I get my phone close to unshielded audio equipmnent (many computer/car speakers, my radio, etc) there is a decent chance that I will get a buh-buhh-buhh sound... Quite annoying sometimes angry
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Dave Marshall
Thu Jul 20 2006, 12:54PM
Dave Marshall Registered Member #16 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 02:22PM
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This signal was on 5441Khz thats 5.441Mhz, an order of magnitude and a little more BELOW any phone on the market. Any RF device can generate harmonics, but they're above the primary RF signal, not below it.

Also, this signal was heard by myself (in central Georgia) Chris (in southern Maine) and several European radio operators as well. This was not a local phenomenon..

Dave
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Madgyver
Thu Jul 20 2006, 03:33PM
Madgyver Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
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Just wondering: Why can we hear interferences caused by cellphones on audioequipment anyway? Isn't freq too horribly high?
just wondering...
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Ben
Thu Jul 20 2006, 03:34PM
Ben Vigilatny
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Perhaps it was an ionospheric heater...que military conspiracy theories...
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Thu Jul 20 2006, 04:31PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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a trisk of getting terribly off topic, @ madgyver
You don't hear the actual 2ghz rf, but the modulation of it. The keep alive signal for the phone just happens to be strong enough that it gets picked up by the equipment and then you hear the data that they are sending on it (which is slow enough to hear it) A lot like am radio...
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