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2 Stage Coilgun Trigger

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currentkills91
Thu Apr 14 2011, 03:00PM Print
currentkills91 Registered Member #3831 Joined: Thu Apr 14 2011, 02:54PM
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Hey everyone, i'm working on a 2 stage coilgun, and i was wondering how i would go about triggering both stages with a time. I would like to use something like the 556 dual timer to control both stages. Both stages are SCR triggered, so i how would i go about doing this? Thanks in advance!!
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Turkey9
Fri Apr 15 2011, 03:01AM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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You're not going to get reliable results using timing. The time it takes for the projectile to reach the second stage is going to changes by large amounts from shot to shot, even if you do place it in EXACTLY the same starting point each time. Coil guns have too much going on to be able to use hard timing.

You need to use a method that is dependent on position, not time. Such as an optical trigger.
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currentkills91
Fri Apr 15 2011, 04:38AM
currentkills91 Registered Member #3831 Joined: Thu Apr 14 2011, 02:54PM
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Okay yeah, i spose that would be impractical...besides an optical switch (i have very little experince with these) any other ideas on switching? :/
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Reid
Fri Apr 15 2011, 06:26AM
Reid Registered Member #2064 Joined: Sat Apr 04 2009, 09:26PM
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A long time ago I used wire brushes to trigger my second stage. It was pretty crude, because the projectile passing between two brushes directly closed the circuit between the coil and the capacitors generating massive arcing, but it was highly effective. My main problem was that the brushes melted somewhat with each shot, so they had to be continually adjusted. There was also a chance that the projectile got welded to the brushes and failed to exit... fun times.

Something you could look into is using a relatively low voltage (5-12v) across brushes to trigger an SCR or a relay which would control your 2nd stage capacitor bank. You'll have to tune your timing mechanically by adjusting the position of the brushes but it's a simple, legitimate design.
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Turkey9
Fri Apr 15 2011, 06:33AM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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I bet you could use a whisker switch to trigger an SCR pretty easily. My first multi-stage gun used two bits of bare wire that would get shorted by the projectile. This then triggered gas discharge tubes (like beefy flash bulbs) that dumped the cap energy into the coils.
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