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Steve Conner DRSSTC Model question

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Terry Fritz
Mon Jun 05 2006, 05:56PM
Terry Fritz Registered Member #393 Joined: Tue Apr 18 2006, 12:30AM
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Posts: 297
Hi,

I just put up ScanTesla7.62 at:

Link2

It seems to work fine for conventional, SISG, and DRSSTC coils now. I included examples of all of them. The streamer load model is in the C file (plain text), but the meat looks like this:

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LeaderLength = 27.19734 * sqrt(0.5 * VCsec_max * VCsec_max * (C2 + C3)); //Secondary energy length.

if (LeaderLength > StrikeDistance) LeaderLength = StrikeDistance;

if (T1 != T1_start && C3_inc1 < 0.0) //Do this if active streamer modeling is enabled and the model has run once.
{

C3 = (LeaderLength - TerminalDiameter) / 6 * 1.0e-12; //Streamer capacitive load.

if (C3 < 0.0) C3 = 0.0;
======================

Pretty simple now. I got the simulations and all done and added now so the constants are accurate. The program also has goal type 3 now to search for the best streamer length. Dwell time can also be used for conventional coil quench time too. The arcs to ground seem to work well now and match the scope. So, finally, the program seems to be doing its master's bidding amazed

The default input file in the ZIP is for Dan's new DRSSTC-III. I was not sure for the toroid diameter and maybe a few of the inputs, but they are probably close. The program gave this:

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ScanTesla V-7.62 June 4, 2006 Terry Fritz
Goal = 4.180500e+001 Maximum Leader Length
Model Number = 940
Goal Number = 125
Cprimary = 1.100000e-007
Lprimary = 9.100000e-006
Rprimary = 1.000000e-001
Coupling = 0.182500
Csecondary = 2.099000e-011
Lsecondary = 4.387000e-002
Rsecondary = 3.850000e+002
Cload = 6.300833e-012
Rload = 2.200000e+005
BPS = 120.000000
Dwell (T1) Time = 6.800000e-005
Ilprimay Maximum = 560.892753
ICprimary RMS (Arms) = 22.307666 ILsecondary RMS (Arms) = 0.391537
VCprimary Maximum = -5120.878882
VCsecondary Maximum = -416110.197722
Coil Power = 328.820961 Primary Bang Energy = 2.740175
Load Power = 220.028924 Load Bang Energy = 1.833574
Leader Length (in) = 41.804996 Streamer
Primary F0 = 159075.425254 Secondary F0 = 165855.582964
Load Energy Rise Time (uSec) = 50.600000

Models Tested = 1606 / 1606
========================

BTW - Dan's low strike current measurement I think is explained in the last post above here. I have been adding to it for the last two days smile

Cheers,

Terry
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Steve Conner
Tue Jun 06 2006, 10:01AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
Hi Terry,

Great stuff! I have some data that I captured from my own DRSSTC here: Link2 There is a DSO capture of the primary current during a ground strike. Is there any way we can get ScanTesla to model this and see how the simulated primary current matches up?

As regards probe bandwidth for capturing ground strikes: If the arc channel had very low resistance (which I believe it does) it would resonate like a metal antenna excited by a spark gap, much as in Hertz's original experiment. So, I imagine the ground current waveform would be a damped ringing whose frequency was such that the streamer was something like a quarter or a half wave long. That works out in the 50-100MHz range for the sizes of coils that most of us play with. The impedance of the connection to the ground target would affect this however.

Does your mutual inductance loop pick up i(t), or di/dt?
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Terry Fritz
Thu Jun 08 2006, 02:43AM
Terry Fritz Registered Member #393 Joined: Tue Apr 18 2006, 12:30AM
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Posts: 297
Great stuff! I have some data that I captured from my own DRSSTC here: There is a DSO capture of the primary current during a ground strike. Is there any way we can get ScanTesla to model this and see how the simulated primary current matches up?


The parameters I found for this situation did not match up right. I asked Steve if he still has the data on the coil measured. ScanTesla "should" be able to "do it" with the right input. If not, I will "fix it" cheesey

Does your mutual inductance loop pick up i(t), or di/dt?

That is a very good question??? I was just looking for "speed" data... All that "it" response data is unknown... I really have no idea other than the spark is "darn fast"!!!! and runs into the low thousands of amsps!!

Cheers,

Terry
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