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Registered Member #2893
Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Looks like he as set up.
The internet army has also been ddosing mastercard and paypal in support of wikileaks.
Government's so full of fail. All these wikileaks attacks are just spreading the info around. Hell even I have a copy of the documents. Article on all the mirrors. >>
Registered Member #543
Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992
History will not look kindly on the people and institutions who are trying to extinguish Julian Assange.
Whether he is kidnapped and murdered in some far off country, like many before him in recent years, or if he is sentenced to 100 years in prison to terrorize anyone else who might have thought of copying him, his attempts to dismantle the mesh of organised lying that masquerades as government in so many nations, will leave his memory as a shining example to be followed by others all around the world.
In the United Kingdom, deceit is no longer a simple moral category, but has become a central pillar of the state. Without organisations like Wikileaks, we will have no way to cut ourselves free from the tentacles of the Organized Lie that have twined themselves around every nook and cranny of our national life.
Registered Member #2893
Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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^^That.
Oh, have you heard of the insurance file? It's a file downloaded by hundreds of thousands of people and it contains >500,000 unreleased documents, including ones on UFOs etc. It has AES256 encryption and the password is to be released in the event that wikileaks's founder was sentenced.
Maybe tesla's death ray notes are in there?
Looks like my gob'ment is pretty damn stupid. Undoubtedly this file's password will now be released soon.
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Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
Location: Odense, Denmark
Posts: 196
Grenadier, how do you know its > 500k docs and that some are about UFO's, you got the password? No i didnt think so.
I dont see how wikileaks have increased my 'freedom' in fact I feel like I'm about to lose a fair bit of it as a result of this. I dont trust the goverments, my own and yours, anymore than you probably do, but I havent heard anything important from these leaks, surely we all knew they (the various goverments) were lying before all this?
It cant have been very exicting things in these papers seeing as the first thing to get published in the news here was nicknames. Surely that will make great progress in international politics to know that the american ambassors call various other people silly names.
As far as Im concerned these papers (especially the "iraq war docs") are mostly just being used by certain media, at least here in denmark, to promote hatred against the goverment. How do we know that this stuff is even the "real deal", wikileaks could easily have edited the files, or only published some of them to give us a false picture of what is actually happening? Why should we trust wikileaks more than our goverments, as prevously stated I dont trust my goverment so for my sake I'd obisously not trust either of them, and frankly neither should you.
Registered Member #1221
Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
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The media will say anything to get more "clicks" on their site, more clicks = more cash for the adds I supose. What happened to that thing about extraordinary proof for extraordinary claims?
Besides if the 'insurance' really is something serious it would be pretty stupid of wikileaks to publish it already because then they cant blackmail whoever the file is about.
Registered Member #2893
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It appears they'll have to turn off the internet to stop spread of the info.
@GluD This is not about free speech, it's about exposing all the secrets the gob'ment has kept from us. Secrecy leads to nothing but trouble, trouble enough to get us 13.7 trillion dollars in debt.
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Joined: Sat Oct 23 2010, 11:21PM
Location: Greece
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A bunch of hackers "taking down" sites of companies like Mastercard, Visa, PayPal and such, is the absolute best news i heard this year. At least we will not go down without a fight!
Registered Member #1221
Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
Location: Odense, Denmark
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I fail to see the positive thing in mastercard, visa, paypal etc being "taken down", how is that gonna benefit anybody. Its just another criminal offense by the wikileaks organisation.
He broke the law, got caught, thats how it works. Starting to screw up websites is in my opinion a childish action, whats that gonna help?
Im not happy with the goverments and their actions either but screwing things up like this isnt gonna improve our lives, in fact I belive its gonna be another excuse for the goverments to put more controll on things, not less surely!
I consider it somewhat the same as when a kewl kid makes a b0mb and someone gets hurt, then the entire community of serious hobby chemists have to pay for it by having their houses ransacked and everyday chemicals are becoming illegal etc. This follows the same principle, some dude gets a "bright" idea and then everybody will have to pay by having their degrees of freedom reduced. Its a setback not a move forward.
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