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LAN_403

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Sat May 27 2006, 01:24AM

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/the.web.toll/index.html

Coyote Wilde

Sat May 27 2006, 02:05AM

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Crap indeed.
I was talking to a network guy about this the other day, and he pointed out that it might not be such a bad thing. If this thing goes down, the best, the brightest, and the Open Source are all going to exodus. Leave The Web, Web 2.0, and the rest. TCP is old, the argument went. We have learned since then.
Perhaps, I was told, this could be a chance to start anew. To start fresh.
... I really don't think I buy it; my hopes rely on petitioning non-US gov'ts to not follow suit, if this administration caves. That way, I won't personally be screwed-- though the higher prices for online services will doubltessly be passed on to everyone, whether we're a part of this tiered structure or no.

AndrewM

Sat May 27 2006, 05:21AM

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Start fresh?? By what, building your own copper or fiber world-wide infrastructure?? Its stands to reason that the telecoms would automatically fie any start-up technologies in the low-bandwidth category.

Mike

Sat May 27 2006, 06:01AM

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This is also called the opposite of Net Neutrality, it is more of an old idea...
There have been a few videos and petitions that want people to sign. I paticularly aren't that considered, I doubt seeing it happen, and if it does, there isn't much we can do about it without a Massive opposition....

Mike

Alex

Sat May 27 2006, 03:59PM

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Oh, oh, I have an idea! Charge more for internet access. I guess that would be too obvious, though. If you're not getting enough revenue to provide the services you're selling, then you're not charging enough. Maybe that makes too much sense.

Madgyver

Sat May 27 2006, 05:04PM

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Well around here there is something like taht coming. The almighty GEZ(Whatever that stands for, they collect taxes one television and radio broadcasting) plan to to take taxes on COMPUTERS for the POSSIBILTY of using th internet in order to listene to Internet radio braodcast.

Well thats a big load of....

ragnar

Sat May 27 2006, 11:20PM

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After reading this, I thought back to propositions in Australia to put taxes on writable CD media to increase its cost, so that the gov't has money to combat software piracy.

Why should all the good people have to pay extra money on their media because others abuse it?

Simon

Sun May 28 2006, 01:31AM

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blackplasma wrote ...

After reading this, I thought back to propositions in Australia to put taxes on writable CD media to increase its cost, so that the gov't has money to combat software piracy.

Why should all the good people have to pay extra money on their media because others abuse it?

When people in power (whatever kind) come up with ideas that stupid it's usually just the best excuse they could think of for something they just wanted to do.

ragnar

Sun May 28 2006, 04:10AM

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Almost as (totally) stupid as the Labour party's votegrabbing proposition to try to ban pornography in Australia.

TOTALLY unenforceable, irrational. The result would be a monopolisation of the porn industry by P2P (but what has changed? :P)

The thing that annoyed me about this was that the ISPs would be held responsible. So I'm guessing if an islamic person found a picture of an islamic girl's face, he/she could take offense and sue his ISP. How far do you take it?

Similarly, how far do you take it with the speed of the 'net?

The way I see it, if you want your visitors to see your site faster, you get local servers and hire somebody who won't design a bloated website.

Secondarily, if your VISITORS want to see your content faster, they buy faster connections.

Where's the 'profoundly retarded' smiley face when I need it?

joshua_

Sun May 28 2006, 07:59AM

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blackplasma wrote ...

Where's the 'profoundly retarded' smiley face when I need it?

Well, on the SA forums, it's Downs

... I've been following this for the past month or so when someone mentioned it there, and I'm going to have to agree with your assessment that it's absolutely a Downs

idea. If kernel.org already has two gigantic gigabit links out, why do they need to pay *twice* to get bandwidth? They're already paying huge amounts once...

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