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Natural superconductors?!

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Conundrum
Mon Nov 15 2010, 10:14PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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just found this paper.

has anyone else ever heard of such a thing?
given that compounds exist which are structurally similar to perovskites such as YBCO, is it
possible that somewhere there exists a mineral which superconducts at >200K?

discuss.
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IntraWinding
Tue Nov 16 2010, 12:31PM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
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Gold exists naturally in the metallic state and I bet it superconducts if it's cold enough, so that would qualify, wouldn't it? Same for Copper.
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Bored Chemist
Tue Nov 16 2010, 08:56PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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"I bet it superconducts if it's cold enough, "
I bet it doesn't.
Good superconductors are usually lousy conductors.

Mercury superconducts if its cold enough and it does occur naturally but I'm not sure if the naturally produced stuff is pure enough.
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Neuuubeh
Sun Nov 28 2010, 03:05PM
Neuuubeh Registered Member #3411 Joined: Sat Nov 13 2010, 08:25PM
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Do I read this right, 1.5K?? A quick look at wiki:

"From about 1993, the highest temperature superconductor was a ceramic material consisting of thallium, mercury, copper, barium, calcium and oxygen (HgBa2Ca2Cu3O8+δ) with Tc = 138 K"

Anyhow, what does this have with your original question, critical temperature of 200k? I would imagine ANY scientist in the field is trying to get to that point... Its quite a large jump..
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Dr. Shark
Thu Dec 09 2010, 02:04AM
Dr. Shark Registered Member #75 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:30AM
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There are a bunch of components like lead and niobium nitride which superconduct and probably occur naturally (lead does, not sure about others). But the question really is, can you call this a "Natural superconductor"? I would argue it's not, since it never get's cold enough in nature to reach the transition temperature. There are probably plenty on Mars or Jupiter though smile

The modern perovskite superconductors don't really need to be very pure (that's why undergraduates can make them in class) so frankly I wouldn't be surprised if stuff like that existed in nature, too.
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