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BSVi
Tue Mar 16 2010, 07:14AM Print
BSVi Registered Member #1637 Joined: Sat Aug 16 2008, 04:47AM
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Does anyone know any details on Ward's new awesome coil design?
Is it just DRSSTC with extra long ringup, or, maybe, he really controls DC bus to grow plasma channel?

I want to know extra details on this extraordinary coil!
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Dalus
Tue Mar 16 2010, 08:06AM
Dalus Registered Member #639 Joined: Wed Apr 11 2007, 09:09PM
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He controls the bus voltage in order to create optimal conditions for spark growth.
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raff
Tue Mar 16 2010, 09:30AM
raff Registered Member #2315 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:35AM
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so is it like half wave rectified mains(controlled) CW DR ? just guessing cheesey
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Coronafix
Tue Mar 16 2010, 09:51AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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What does the Q stand for? Maybe it stands for Q.
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Steve Conner
Tue Mar 16 2010, 10:09AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Quasi.

As far as I know, it's a DRSSTC with the bus voltage controlled dynamically by a Class-D modulator.

I want one too smile
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brtaman
Tue Mar 16 2010, 10:11AM
brtaman Registered Member #2161 Joined: Fri Jun 05 2009, 03:36PM
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I had very similar results to steves coil while testing my interupted sstc. No where near the output length though! That is a most impressive coil, I must say!

I codenamed the entire set-up "Prancing Sword", as the output was a single branching sword spark which at the right interrupter frequency gave off the illusion of dancing.

It was a PLL driver ala Mr. Conner, filtered half-bridge. I am sure that Mr. Wards system is much more complex than what I had set-up, mine seemed to mimic his coil to a great extent, too bad I never got around to adding a resonant capacitor. What I do remember is that a very specific coupling/primary geometry, phasing and PLL pot setting was required for the prancing sword, anything off the "ideal" just resulted in regular ISSTC output. Seeing this coil makes me want to revisit the project and add a resonant cap...

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Dr Hankenstein
Wed Mar 17 2010, 02:27AM
Dr Hankenstein Registered Member #1642 Joined: Sun Aug 17 2008, 11:36PM
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Yah, I took a close look at Steve's incredible coil at the Teslathon. Very ingenious and clever. I believe he's using a 4CX250B tetrode mounted on a liquid cooled heat exchanger for the modulator along with a really big SCR for the pulsed audio. Brilliant! Way to go, Steve!
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Steve Ward
Wed Mar 17 2010, 03:18AM
Steve Ward Registered Member #146 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:21AM
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Dr Hankenstein nailed it on the head! Good job cheesey

Im not terribly eager to give out the details of the build, its really quite complex compared to any other project ive posted before. The thought of documenting it to the point of it being copy-able isnt really my idea of fun. Sorry guys, i just dont have the time for this stuff lately.

Conner explained it correctly, i modulate the bus voltage into a "high-impedance" DRSSTC operating at 350khz. The fact that i can operate with 16mS long ramp pulses (its arbitrary in fact) allows for 54" sparks from the 9" resonator.

Theres some more pictures of the system as it developed on my flickr page:

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In a year from now, this will be the standard and we will all be waiting for the next cool tesla coil cheesey
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Arcstarter
Wed Mar 17 2010, 03:45AM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
Location: Beaumont, Texas, USA
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I have heard about this coil, but i have never seen it. My jaw dropped, and i got reallly pissed that i could not have come up with it.

That is amazing as hell!

Only a few questions, i promise. Unless you want to have the only one (i would have done it that way...).

Is this nearly the same driver and power/tank section of a drsstc?
Is the main difference the control of the buss voltage?

I have absolutely no idea how you did this, which pisses me off cheesey. But, it pisses me off in a 'good' way. I need to do random things like cramming bananas into the buss bars on IGBTs and stuff to see if i could come up with something.

Good luck.

!!!
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Dr Hankenstein
Wed Mar 17 2010, 03:51AM
Dr Hankenstein Registered Member #1642 Joined: Sun Aug 17 2008, 11:36PM
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The 4CX250B is in series with the Buss and is modulated with the 1600A SCR
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