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cjk2
Thu Feb 26 2009, 11:25PM Print
cjk2 Registered Member #51 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:17AM
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I thought id share my latest work in the area of levitation. What i have done in the past is attractive levitation. Attractive is easy because gravity helps to keep things stable. Repulsive, however is much harder.

I use 4 hall effect sensors in this setup to deduce X, Y, and Z. My levitator is powered by a mega168 running at 14mhz.

Stability is still a bit of a problem in this design but I believe i might be able to improve it by lowering my hall effect array a bit.

Everything runs on 12v, at 5a or so max. I also have a real time computer interface set up so i can see what the levitator is doing while it it running.

See it working on youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8fnVdNQkyo


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Arcstarter
Thu Feb 26 2009, 11:41PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Very beautiful! :O
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rp181
Fri Feb 27 2009, 12:05AM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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Best levitation device I have seen. Looks good, And i agree, It will be much better without the aluminum. I think it would look better if the coils where on top of the controller, Hidden cable's and all. It would be a cool desktop toy.

Do the coils get Hot?
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Fri Feb 27 2009, 12:41AM
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That is amazing amazed The construction is immaculate! And it even works wink

Any thought of making one that works with eddy currents so you don't need a magnet to make it work? Although from what I understand even levating a small object would take a fairly large amount of circulating power that wouldn't lend itself to desk toy form factors very well.
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cjk2
Fri Feb 27 2009, 02:11AM
cjk2 Registered Member #51 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:17AM
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Do the coils get Hot?

Nothing gets more than slightly warm even during continuous operation. I was worried a bit about heating because I am using locked anti-phase drive, but the coils seem to have plenty of inductance to prevent any issues.

Any thought of making one that works with eddy currents so you don't need a magnet to make it work? Although from what I understand even levating a small object would take a fairly large amount of circulating power that wouldn't lend itself to desk toy form factors very well.

I agree that it would take a lot of power to make a design like that work. It seems to be much easier to just levitate magnets.
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Proud Mary
Fri Feb 27 2009, 02:32AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Splendid workmanship! Well done! smile
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neuralinhibitor
Fri Mar 13 2009, 06:27AM
neuralinhibitor Registered Member #2023 Joined: Fri Mar 13 2009, 05:53AM
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Wow, this is genuinely impressive. A while ago I tried to get my (attractive) levitator running using a PIC18F452 @ 4MHz but it became unstable rather quickly.

I'm curious, are you using a phase angle compensation circuit or are you generating the response to the hall effect sensors purely in software (which would be even more impressive)?

Either way, great job. I may have to give mine another go.
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cjk2
Fri Mar 13 2009, 06:12PM
cjk2 Registered Member #51 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:17AM
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I have tried lead compensation, but my levitator actually gets less stable if i use it. I am currently using an aluminum disk under the object to dampen any vibrations. It is actually almost stable without the damper but the object has a tendency to fall after 20 seconds or so.

All of the mixing and mapping is done in software on my micro.

Here is my latest video of the device working.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DprA3_yhug
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Tom540
Fri Mar 13 2009, 07:59PM
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That is awesome. You should develop it into a controller. Put like a plastic shaft onto the object.
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Zorink
Sat Mar 14 2009, 06:28AM
Zorink Registered Member #1292 Joined: Wed Feb 06 2008, 04:09AM
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awesome amazed

I can't wait to see the finished product
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