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Conundrum
Thu Jul 17 2008, 07:49PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.
THIS Link2 got me thinking about whether a mini geiger tube such as the SBM21 might be more sensitive if magnetically biased.

Has anyone tried this? see here for circuit
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Regards, -A
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Hon1nbo
Thu Jul 17 2008, 07:58PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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magnets, if not correctly placed, have a good chance at deflecting Alpha and Beta radiation away from the tube... but if you use only gamma, it might work as when the discharge forms the charge should be increased going to the circuit in a similar way that MHD works (charged particles moving in magnetic field produces current... it is one of the theoretical designs I have for my nuclear battery expirements...)
However, I do not know if it would work for gamma, and if not you would have to be careful not to deflect alpha or beta (if you want them)
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likewhat
Sun Jul 20 2008, 05:14PM
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charged particles do not like to move across magnetic field lines. So depending on the orientation of the field, if it is perpendiculer to the electric field inside the chamber it would prevent electrons from reaching the anode. In fact with that geometry you would have a radiation triggered smooth bore magnetron.
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Conundrum
Sat Mar 19 2011, 08:35PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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I did have an intriguing idea however, integrate a flat geiger tube inside the PCB itself (!) with an ITO coated mica window on top and rely on the copper to make the thing leakproof.

possibly also use the RF detection method to increase sensitivity..

Would be cool to make a small PCB with datalogger and several integrated detectors such as CMOS camera+scintillator, micro geiger, ionisation etc with plated on n thickness lead windows so both the type and direction of radiation can be monitored.
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