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rp181
Wed Jun 11 2008, 12:31AM Print
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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I've been working on a coil gun. I am working on them for a science fair project in determining the best way to affect effeciency. I hope to get 5kJ worth of Capacitors, but im still working on getting them. Ile update as i get items/construct.

Parts i have:

3x ST180S12POV (SCR's) - Datasheet: Link2
4x Fast recovery diodes: R6021225HSYA - Link2
5x 300 watt, 1000ohm bleeder resistors
1' x .5" Hymu-80 rod - will become proectiles

Parts i need:

Capacitors - 6x 400v 2900uf -- Shipping --

Plans/Pics:

The SCR's and Diodes, with AA for comparison:

T DSCF0112m 5a749e0

Bleeder resistors
fairly big, larger than expected

T DSCF0083m 5f58642




Heres some renderings done on Rhino of the railgun and coilgun. Capacitor bank is shown on railgun, and railgun is ghost rendered. Each little sqare is 1/4in, and each big square (marked by darker lines) is 1in.


Coilgun:

T 61020081432m 48ee39c

Specs:
14 in long, 3 coils. AWG wire - 12
624J each stage



I have decided on using a quad comparator and phototransistors to trigger.

Update

After a long delay, started project again. I ditched the railgun, and im using 624J X 3 for a multistage coilgun. Heres the coil gun:

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Capacitors are shipping. My charging will be a voltage multiplier for 110 to ~600v. Capacitors will be in sets of 2 for each stage.

Update 2

Ive mounted everything on a base and wired the anti-parrallel diodes and SCR's together. Now i am just lacking the capacitors and triggering system. I have started making a triggering system using a LM339 Quad-Comparator. If you look at earlier pic, you can see the that the IR Emitter/Reciever are built in. Ive got the basic LM339 working, but i gotta make it work with a 2SB772 NPN transistor for it to switch the SCR's.

Heres a pic:

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The empty space will be where the Capacitors will go. The (+) of the cap bank will connect to the studs of the SCR's and the (-)'s will connect to the Diode (screwed down part). In the upper right is my LM339 triggering system prototype. The Aluminum thing right after the CG is a simple set of IR Emitter/Recievers i will use with my PC to chrono the projectile. Ferroxcube, chtechnology, and Powerohm logos are on there to show who donated parts.
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ea6b607
Wed Jun 11 2008, 01:15AM
ea6b607 Registered Member #1320 Joined: Sat Feb 16 2008, 01:31AM
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how's your machining facilities/ tools/
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rp181
Wed Jun 11 2008, 01:55AM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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a 1/3rd horsepower Drill O.o

Doing it at school,so table saw, radial arm saw, drill press, band saw, metal bandsaw, horizontal bandsaw, drum sander, belt/disc sander, scroll saw, spot welder, mig welder, arc welder, and a foundry O.o.
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Lakeowner
Wed Jun 11 2008, 08:53AM
Lakeowner Registered Member #1370 Joined: Mon Mar 03 2008, 09:01AM
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Why are you using resistors in series with your coil? I think they decrease performance considerably.
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rp181
Wed Jun 11 2008, 02:08PM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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The inductor and resistor represents the coil, as it will have resistance and inductance.
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Bjørn
Wed Jun 11 2008, 02:12PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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The resistor is usually implied. When you draw it like that people will think you have added an external resistor.
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rp181
Wed Jun 11 2008, 03:41PM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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Updated schematic, would that triggering work?
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Andyman
Wed Jun 11 2008, 05:51PM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
Location: Upland, California
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If I recall, it's best if you have a resistor of about 1k on the gate of the fire scr, if you're running straight from a 9v battery.
P.S. What program did you use for the schematic?

edit:(on a random side note, 100th post!)
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rp181
Wed Jun 11 2008, 06:10PM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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The program is microcap (evaluation).

I will be using a laptop power supply (14.5v) with a resistor to trigger. I tested it and it works. The gate max is 20v, so it should be fine.

Also works without resistor, but just to leave a wide saftey margin.
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Electroholic
Wed Jun 11 2008, 06:52PM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
Location: Esbjerg Denmark
Posts: 720
use max gate current to calculate resistance, u want a good kick to the gate.
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