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Tue May 27 2008, 11:23PM Print
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
Location: Southern Califorina, USA
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I needed a birthday present for my sweetheart, so I decided that a new desk toy was in order tongue

To keep things nonletal and simple, I decided to build on TDUs Candybox HV and use a camera charger (sans pcb, just the transformer, transistor, startup resistor and rectifier diode) to charge up a 6uf/450v cap (2x 3uf/450v in parallel) which is shorted into a 5 turn primary on a flybakck transformer using a 220v SIDAC.

Shrinking the charger circuit and adding the storage caps/SIDAC:
1211929958 56 FT0 Charger 1211930061 56 FT0 Pulser


Add some power and a transformer, then start to build it into a box I built out of some leftover hardwood floring
1211929986 56 FT0 Insides 1211930005 56 FT0 Inside

Finished product:
1211930140 56 FT0 Overall 1211930177 56 FT0 Spark
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Spedy
Wed May 28 2008, 12:23AM
Spedy Registered Member #964 Joined: Wed Aug 22 2007, 12:39AM
Location: Stockton, CA
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Thats pretty cool! I would build one of these things but SIDACS are expensive from the sources I know of..
Hope she likes it!
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed May 28 2008, 01:29PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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That looks pretty cool, especially with the two bare wires sticking from it... I bet everyone would guess what does it do even without applying the power! tongue mad



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flannelhead
Wed May 28 2008, 01:59PM
flannelhead Registered Member #952 Joined: Mon Aug 13 2007, 11:07AM
Location: Finland
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Now as you got into the disposable camera business, why not to make her a small camera transformer powered SGTC? wink
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Wed May 28 2008, 02:33PM
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Of course she liked it, although the first thing she wanted to do with it after she saw it was set something on fire with it tongue

I was considering a sgtc/sstc, but decided that the simpler the better, since she is heading off to college (Notre Dame, Indiana) in a few months, so I am not going to be able to mess with it if it gets out of tune.
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Weston
Thu May 29 2008, 03:07AM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
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Was the fly back a trigger coil? Could you direct me to a site that explains how to simplify the flash cameras, i have been planing to make something like this for months now.
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teslacoolguy
Thu May 29 2008, 03:50AM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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the flyback is being used as a pulse transformer and the camera circut charges the capacitors and then the sidac discharges them into the primary coil.
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flannelhead
Thu May 29 2008, 12:51PM
flannelhead Registered Member #952 Joined: Mon Aug 13 2007, 11:07AM
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Weston wrote ...

Was the fly back a trigger coil? Could you direct me to a site that explains how to simplify the flash cameras, i have been planing to make something like this for months now.
There's a fine tutorial on Youtube. Link2 However, not all charger circuits are the same. That tutorial works only for particular flash boards.

Another way is to do a bit of reverse-engineering to find out which parts belong to the capacitor charger circuit. Or you may find a ready-made schematic for your board with a little googling. If you're lucky, it's just a transistor, a resistor and the transformer. Desolder the parts from the board and make your own, more compact version.
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rp181
Thu May 29 2008, 03:12PM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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wouldn't the two caps in seris be 900v and 1.5uf?
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Thu May 29 2008, 09:46PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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@weston, The charger was made by just looking at the traces on the charger pcb, and soldering the components on to their respective locations. Luckily the board I had was very simple, so it was easy to find which components were necessary.

@rp181, the caps are wires in parallel, the tvs fires at 220v so it was not necessary to have more than one series capacitor.
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