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Triggering SCR's

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Tipp
Sat Mar 11 2006, 07:50PM Print
Tipp Registered Member #215 Joined: Sun Feb 19 2006, 09:14PM
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Ok, well I've been doing research and looking into this kinda thing, but it's confusing the hell out of me. I found a few site that showed me this:

Scrwiring

What's the 9v battery for? It looks like he's running it in series with his bank voltage so it will appear +9v more. Resistor is obvisly for limiting current to the gate. Is that the proper way to trigger an SCR? [To have a higher gate voltage then anode?]

Link to site:
Link2

It's been a long week...maybe I'm just not thinking strieght...

Thanks once again for all your help...you guys are lifesavers...

[Edit: Fixed oversized picture]
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Sat Mar 11 2006, 07:53PM
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it is kind of hard to tell when we do not know what model the SCR is, but a 9v battery resistor and switch is a fine way to triger one.
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Tipp
Sat Mar 11 2006, 08:00PM
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Oh, sorry, duh! angry Let me grab you a datasheet here... [this isnt the one in the pic, just used it as an example]

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There y'are cheesey Voltage code = 12 [1.2kV]
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Steve Conner
Sat Mar 11 2006, 08:43PM
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A voltage between gate and cathode, and the current that it causes to flow, is what triggers the SCR. So there's a mistake in that schematic which shows the trigger voltage connected between gate and ANODE (or the cap bank connected backwards)
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Tipp
Sun Mar 12 2006, 01:51AM
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So basicly, instead of attaching the 9v negitive to the anode, it should be connected to the cathode? Seems easy enough...is there any other precaution I should be aware of doing it this way? I dont want my 9 volt battery to go 'pop' mistrust Already blew up a AA battery...but that was another project wink
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Simon
Sun Mar 12 2006, 05:33AM
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As long as you wire it up properly and the SCR is correctly rated, the battery should be fine.

You might want to take a peek at the Wiki page.
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rupidust
Sun Mar 12 2006, 08:08AM
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Here is a nice quick sample to test an SCR.
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Tipp
Sun Mar 12 2006, 07:32PM
Tipp Registered Member #215 Joined: Sun Feb 19 2006, 09:14PM
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Aight, well I tried sample circuit #1, and the LED turns on, but the thyristor won't latch. Is this normal for a huge power SCR like this? I have a 5P4M SCR in a TO-220 package which latches normally when tested in this manner.

[Edit: Currently reading the wiki page, whoever drew those pictures has some mad paint skills cheesey ]
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rupidust
Sun Mar 12 2006, 10:47PM
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Here is the resized schematic.

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Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:09AM
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the larger teh SCR the more power needed for it to latch. I think that you need about .5a for it to stay latched, and about .3a on the gate to trigger it.
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