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nzoomed
Wed May 24 2017, 03:58AM Print
nzoomed Registered Member #54503 Joined: Sun Feb 22 2015, 10:35PM
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Im needing help to figure out if its possible to replace the flyback transformer on a CRT monitor for a vintage computer im restoring.

It blew up with a bright flash and a bit of smoke, but i have no idea if i can easily swap another in its place.
Do most have the same pinouts? I see they are in all shapes and sizes, so its more if it can fit directly in the board i guess.

Its a Sampo FEA209.


TIA
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Sulaiman
Wed May 24 2017, 10:39AM
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I did not see your model mentioned, maybe it is similar to one of these ? Link2
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nzoomed
Thu May 25 2017, 02:04AM
nzoomed Registered Member #54503 Joined: Sun Feb 22 2015, 10:35PM
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it probably very well is, but i dont think its as simple as swapping one over, even if it solders right in place.
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Sulaiman
Thu May 25 2017, 09:57AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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If it looks the same and the pin configuration looks the same, they probably are electrically similar.

If not, you need chassis part# to find manual/schematics to be sure

What text can you see on the flyback transformer ?

Link2
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pisoiu
Thu May 25 2017, 11:26AM
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Quite some time ago I worked in a monitor service facility. I had cases with identical looking/pinout/size flyback transformers but they were incompatible.
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radiotech
Fri May 26 2017, 06:31AM
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What caused it to blow up ? You could test the drive device. Monitors and TV sets with flyback issues
were serviced with the help of analyzers. This prevented just burning out new parts, while troubleshooting.
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Proud Mary
Fri May 26 2017, 09:38PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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The Spanish firm HR Diemen are the world's largest suppliers of replacement/equivalent FBT.

Where there is an HR Diemen equivalent, they supply a full pin-out plan, with key voltages and currents, on a pdf sheet.

HR Diemen part search is here: Link2
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nzoomed
Sat May 27 2017, 11:17PM
nzoomed Registered Member #54503 Joined: Sun Feb 22 2015, 10:35PM
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Sulaiman wrote ...

If it looks the same and the pin configuration looks the same, they probably are electrically similar.

If not, you need chassis part# to find manual/schematics to be sure

What text can you see on the flyback transformer ?

Link2

Only thing written is SAMPO FEA209 on a sticker, nothing else I can see.
I will add a photo later.

Proud Mary wrote ...

The Spanish firm HR Diemen are the world's largest suppliers of replacement/equivalent FBT.

Where there is an HR Diemen equivalent, they supply a full pin-out plan, with key voltages and currents, on a pdf sheet.

HR Diemen part search is here: Link2

Yes ive tried them, they responded and told me its not available.

Dunno why they have it listed there still. I doubt there is much market for these parts nowdays. Something tells me they scrapped all their stock, its not like every screen in the world used that part, I would expect some to have had some stock remaining.

I cant see any PDF sheet there for download, but their part number that crosses over is HR 46574

radiotech wrote ...

What caused it to blow up ? You could test the drive device. Monitors and TV sets with flyback issues
were serviced with the help of analyzers. This prevented just burning out new parts, while troubleshooting.


I have no idea what caused it to fail, other than just age, shortly before it blew, i could hear a bit of a squealing noise, and then a few mins later, it would make a popping sound and each time the screen would flicker, it got worse to the point that no picture hapened and i saw some arcing inside the monitor from the back, i quickly switched it off and saw that the flyback had a hole burnt on the side, so i assume the secondary had gone on it.
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johnf
Sat May 27 2017, 11:53PM
johnf Registered Member #230 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 08:01PM
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most likely one of the caps in the voltage doubler inside then a diode or two has gone to the silicon heaven. Usually the windings are completely potted in plastic and give very little trouble
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nzoomed
Fri Jun 02 2017, 12:10AM
nzoomed Registered Member #54503 Joined: Sun Feb 22 2015, 10:35PM
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OK, well the unit will need replacing.

Hopefully something will turn up
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