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Carbon_Rod
Sun Jul 19 2015, 10:43PM Print
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Is there a better documented source of information regarding this process?
Link2

It seems a little unclear exactly what is being constructed.

Cheers,
Rod
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Conundrum
Sat Aug 29 2015, 06:56AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Yes, this is a real thing.
Since the original discovery of laser generated graphene people have been modifying old Lightscribe drives to do this.
In fact, a UV laser is even better and a simple X-Y setup can be made for less than £100.
See Marcel Lenormand's DIY etcher smile

One thing I did find is that even a small change (ie different substrate, electrolyte, etc) can massively impact the results.
I found that a good way to get started with supercaps is to use aquarium carbon (activated charcoal) and this isn't particularly expensive.
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radiotech
Fri Sept 11 2015, 02:47PM
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From the first video (excellent !) One part said, un ripping scouring pads
gives us fine iron wires.

Were those scouring pads stainless steel ?

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hen918
Fri Sept 11 2015, 05:02PM
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radiotech wrote ...

From the first video (excellent !) One part said, un ripping scouring pads
gives us fine iron wires.

Were those scouring pads stainless steel ?




well, I've never heard of a iron scouring pad, that would be very bad idea. It must be stainless steel.
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Ash Small
Fri Sept 11 2015, 06:30PM
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hen918 wrote ...


well, I've never heard of a iron scouring pad

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hen918
Fri Sept 11 2015, 08:37PM
hen918 Registered Member #11591 Joined: Wed Mar 20 2013, 08:20PM
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Ash Small wrote ...

hen918 wrote ...


well, I've never heard of a iron scouring pad

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I have some steel wool, however it isn't a pad, and it isn't iron.
I was thinking of a device for cleaning cookware, so I take your point.
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Ash Small
Fri Sept 11 2015, 11:05PM
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It's low carbon steel, so not very different to iron in it's characteristics. It does come in pads, like 'Brillo pads' but without the soap impregnation.

What I saw in the video looked like stainless, so I'd like some clarification of the principles as well.
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radiotech
Sun Sept 13 2015, 07:05AM
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How do know it is a super capacitor? The math at the end would work with
a storage battery, renamed as a 'supercap'.
1442127932 2463 FT172269 Tavis Supercap Calcs
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Bored Chemist
Sun Sept 13 2015, 09:28AM
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dV/dQ
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radiotech
Sun Sept 13 2015, 06:19PM
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The plastering mesh looks shiny, and it must interact with plaster in way that
maintains strength with destroying or corroding the metal.

Exact details of the alloy/coating would be good to know.

Also, does the sodium hydroxide go down through the carbon
and form two couples, one on the positive plate, and one on the negative ?

Given that the two electrodes are identical and separated by a porous insulator
the chemistry is two carbon surfaces in Sodium Hydroxide, or is at the metal
-carbon ?

After the initial current limited charge, what has happened to make
one plate more electro positive than the other?

This cycle is reversible obviously.

I picked up an old (real) book and flipped to Energy in Concentration Cells.
Not happy reading.

If this Tic-Tac battery is a copy of a commercial product, perhaps someone
could dig up a patent number. That might help. If they do make such a cell,
they wont tell anyone how.
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