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jpsmith123
Sat Mar 17 2012, 02:26AM Print
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Steve Conner
Sat Mar 17 2012, 01:07PM
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The purpose of that building is on a need-to-know basis. tongue Maybe it's a huge Gitmo-style jail where they'll throw all the conspiracy theorists.

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Everything a person does – from traveling to buying groceries – is to be displayed on a graph

Now that everyone carries smartphones with GPS, and supermarkets all have loyalty cards, any fool can do that. (Remember Aaron Barr vs. Anonymous?) No, the NSA must be up to something far more sinister.
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jpsmith123
Sat Mar 17 2012, 03:36PM
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Frankly I was hoping to get into one of the new FEMA camps. I was hoping that as a Ron Paul supporter, Sam's club customer, a person who frequently pays cash, a "conspiracy theorist", and most damningly, a person who believes we should follow our own Constitution, I'd at least be entitled to some nice new diggs in one of the brand new camps. I'm sure I'm fairly high up a list somewhere, and I'm going to demand a room with a nice view, accordingly.

Anyway, yes, I agree they're up to something really sinister. I think they see the writing on the wall indicating that more and people are waking up (e.g., increasing popular support for Ron Paul, increasing gun sales, etc.). And traditional means of control have their limitations, so it's only natural for them to turn to high-tech as a force multiplier.


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Pinky's Brain
Sat Mar 17 2012, 04:57PM
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I think the article has it about right ... the intelligence agencies are the new Stazi and facebook and Bayesian probability theory the new citizen informers.

That said, the whole FEMA camp thing is silly.
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Steve Conner
Sat Mar 17 2012, 05:08PM
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FEMA camp?! It's a train maintenance yard. The gas pipes are for heating. suprised
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jpsmith123
Sat Mar 17 2012, 05:16PM
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Well comrade, where are we going to put all the subjects who fail to conform (or those who don't like it when we start WW3 and destroy what's left of the economy and everything else)?

BTW here's another article about it. Apparently it's a revived version of the old "total information awareness" program, on steroids.

According to people who claim to know, we're on the verge of a "turnkey totalitarian state".

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Pinky's Brain wrote ...

I think the article has it about right ... the intelligence agencies are the new Stazi and facebook and Bayesian probability theory the new citizen informers.

That said, the whole FEMA camp thing is silly.
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Pinky's Brain
Sat Mar 17 2012, 06:00PM
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You don't have to put them any where as long as they don't turn violent, talk is cheap.
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jpsmith123
Sat Mar 17 2012, 06:45PM
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I don't think they're doing all this stuff and spending all this money for nothing, do you?

Based on everything they've done so far, one of the main tenets of their doctrine of totalitarian control appears to be "preemption". And another thing they're doing is slowly but surely criminalizing legitimate dissent. Put it all together and it paints a bleak picture, IMO. Pretty soon, publicly questioning whether "fire" could've brought down WTC7, for example, will be deemed to be "aiding Al Qaeda" or some such nonsense.

Anyway, what's going to happen when millions of people who are just barely making it now have to pay $10/gallon for gas after they start their next war of aggression in the Mideast? Certainly our prudent totalitarians are thinking about it and preparing for it so we may find out soon.

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I think our present rulers are worried about something like this happening:
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Mads Barnkob
Sun Mar 18 2012, 07:25AM
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I would like to thank jpsmith123 for getting me under surveillance, on multiply government watch lists and possible I will never be able to travel to the US now that I figure on all the aforementioned, just for being member on a forum for amateur electronic enthusiast.
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jpsmith123
Sun Mar 18 2012, 11:55AM
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ROTFL! Aw c'mon, you don't want to come to the U.S. anyway, do you?
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